What's the deal with the land in front of the sanctuary - along the road, with the crappy old trailer on it? Wasn't that/isn't that for sale? (and how big is it? does it abut the sanctuary? etc.)
What if (big if) it were somehow purchased and made "sister" land? Could be - doesn't have to be a Nomenus thing. This could serve as the primarey sanctuary for bio-female fairies (and/or anyone that identifies as faerie w/o necesarily identifying as male-faggot). That way either could have periods of same-sex only space - without necesarily displacing visitors of the opposite sex.
And yet they could support one another.
Does this make sense to anyone?
  • re/ along the road, with the crappy old trailer

    Thu, December 8, 2005 - 7:22 AM
    So you're driving from Wolf Creek (the town) along Wolf Creek Road (with the actual Wolf Creek to your left) and you come to the driveway to the Nomenus Sanctuary so you slow down to turn in [to your left], and, just before you turn in, on your left, there's this wide pull-out and about 40m from the roadside is a house trailer. That's the land you mean?

    If so: back around something like '94 i was at a summer Faeriestock when the occupant of that land was 86d from the Nomenus property after he was convicted in that day's Circle of having come into the house very very early in the morning, and turned on all the gas burners on the stove, but not lit any, and then gone out. Everyone in the house at that time was still asleep. Gary (one of the caretakers, who occupied a tent on the other side of the barn but was always up and about in the early mornings) was, i think, the person who reported having seen the man leave the house, as Gary was approaching but too far to hail without waking everyone, and then when Gary went into the house he found the gas burners on. The man --i forget his name, it might have been Tony but i am very unsure-- was a long-term faggot-identified associate of Nomenus but had become a little distanced due to a number of long-term "personality conflicts" or whatever, and commonly spent a lot of time on the Land especially in gatherings, having bought the adjacent property in order to be close, as i think i may recall. He was also said to have been living with HIV infection for many years and was unhesitating in his acknowledgement of substantial symptoms of dementia resulting: hence, it seemed fairly plausible when he claimed to have no memory of having turned on the gas, and people in Circle said that they considered it plausible that he could have committed the act with no conscious intent to do harm, in some state of confusion, and then forgotten it; but, they were not prepared to credit the scenario of his having accidentally brushed against the stove in passing and turned on all the gas knobs to full-on, by accident, with his hip. The fairly intense rancor among many individuals closely involved with the Land at that point gave substantial credibility to his having had either conscious or unconscious motivation to commit an impulsive act of potential violence and then let Magic decide whether or not to make it real. Banning him was highly controversial but there was eventual consensus in the Circle of that day that, whether deliberate or accidental, however it had occurred it seemed to be clearly his doing and therefore he posed a de-facto danger to the occupants and could not be allowed on the land for safety reasons. That was upheld through the duration of that Faeriestock and i don't know how it went from there on.

    Anyhow it seems likely that he may have died in the time since then --he had endured a number of very severely symptomatic crises in his AIDS by then, and it's been a decade since-- which might have led to the land coming up for sale.

    Another event which had happened shortly prior to the Faeriestock in which that episode occurred, was that someone stopped their vehicle on Wolf Creek Road and fired several long-gun rounds into the side of that trailer. I was told some history of this one family in particular who lived about three miles South of the Sanctuary who had historically been conducting sortof a guerilla warfare against gays in the area, for years, whom he suspected of the action. At the time, there was a general perception among the local Faerie-friendly residents that hostility to the increasingly-visible gay presence around Wolf Creek was on the rise, so, that bit of land was considered highly vulnerable to such terrorist actions and this awareness heightened the difficulty of the Circle's decision to ban its occupant from the land.

    I dunno how relevant any of that decade-old information might be now, but, i offer it as background that may be better than nothing.

    ~~Chirp!
    • Oops I Was Unclear

      Thu, December 8, 2005 - 7:36 AM
      Re: my last, in
      > guerilla warfare against gays in the area,
      > for years, whom he suspected of the action.
      > At the time, there was a general perception
      > among the local Faerie-friendly residents that
      > hostility to the increasingly-visible gay presence
      > around Wolf Creek was on the rise, so, that
      > bit of land was considered highly vulnerable to
      > such terrorist actions and this awareness
      > heightened the difficulty of the Circle's decision
      > to ban its occupant from the land.

      . . . there were two or three bits that could be confusing.

      First, in
      > that
      > bit of land was considered highly vulnerable to
      > such terrorist actions and this awareness
      > heightened the difficulty of the Circle's decision
      > to ban its occupant from the land.

      . . . "that bit of land" refers to the land by the road with the crappy trailer on it, but, in "ban its occupant from the land," the word "land" refers to the Nomenus Sanctuary, on the other side of Wolf Creek. And, "its occupant" refers to the occupant of the land by the road with the crappy trailer on it.

      Second, in "whom he suspected of the action", my context would mislead you to think that the occupant of the crappy trailer is who i mean by "he" but in fact my informant was someone i have not yet brought into the story.
      This was a man who spent quite a bit of time at the Faeriestocks, caucasian in his sixties, slender, white hair, drove a pickup truck from the early 50s, lived at the end of that short road that dead-ends at the cemetary just North of Wolf Creek Road just West of the freeway overpass. He and i spent a good bit of time working on projects together and it was he who had told me about this history of anti-gay terrorism in the valley.

      Okay done clarifying now. ~~Chirp!
    • You're remembering Tommy Tadlock at the 93' Faeriestock who had severe dementia, and was very sick. I drove him back to SF after the gathering, accompanied by Gary Reagan. We took him to his friend in SF who took care of him. He died of AIDS not long afterwards.-Jerry
      • Tommy's Trailer

        Mon, July 31, 2006 - 3:04 PM
        Yes, now that you say it, i do recall his name was Tommy. I had heard that his medical condition was profoundly worrisome but it nevertheless startles me to learn how close to death he was: my superficial impression of him included a sense of his having a lot of vitality and somehow i keep expecting people to have long slow declines in that before they die, despite that they keep on not meeting my expectation. Well anyhow, not to ramble:

        Have you had much sense of what was going on with his trailer and/or its lot, since then, and whether there have been more harrassing attacks by the district homophobes during the subsequent 13 years? I also recall that there was a house right across Wolf Creek Road occupied by some friends, the sortof steep driveway was just a little further West along Wolf Creek Road than the driveway entrance to the Sanctuary. Any knowledge of whether people there now are still friends of the Sanctuary?

        ~~Chirp!
        • Researching Ownership and Occupancy

          Mon, July 31, 2006 - 10:40 PM
          Re:
          > Hey, here's an idea (repost from Wolf Creek Tribe)
          > Thu, November 17, 2005 - 4:41 PM
          > What's the deal with the land in front of the sanctuary -
          > along the road, with the crappy old trailer on it?
          > Wasn't that/isn't that for sale?
          > (and how big is it? does it abut the sanctuary? etc.)
          > What if (big if) it were somehow purchased and made
          > "sister" land? Could be - doesn't have to be a Nomenus thing.
          > This could serve as the primarey sanctuary for
          > bio-female fairies (and/or anyone that identifies as faerie
          > w/o necesarily identifying as male-faggot).
          > That way either could have periods of same-sex only space
          > - without necesarily displacing visitors of the opposite sex.
          > And yet they could support one another.
          > Does this make sense to anyone?

          -- AND --

          Re:
          > place across from sanctuary
          > Mon, July 31, 2006 - 3:13 PM
          > there is a cabin and a trailer there across the street.
          > Kevyn Woven used to be in the trailer and
          > Assunta was in the cabin- - that was 8 years ago.
          > I think the land itself was owned by a guy
          > named Ivan who passed away a few years ago.
          > I don't know anything about land ajecent to the sanctuary.

          . . . . --etc.:

          ===> We do not seem to be getting any very current and confident information as to the status of ownership and occupancy of these properies that are close enought that, in the case of Tommy's trailer on the South side of Wolf Creek Road right next to the Sancturary driveway, one could just take the trail down behind the trailer across the tracks and then across the stones in the creek to end up at Garden House; or, in the case of Assunta's cabin, just walk down its driveway, cross the road catty-cornered, and the walk down the driveway into Sanctuary. It seems like if we knew this information then we could contemplate realistically whether there might be a plausible chance to try and finagle a Faerie Sister annex to the Nomenus sanctuary. The idea of such an annex did indeed make a lot of sense to me. . . . is anyone up there in a convenient position to try and discover the current facts?
          ~~Chirp!
          • Unsu...
             

            Re: Researching Ownership and Occupancy

            Tue, August 1, 2006 - 6:45 AM
            You might try a search in Josephine County Records, I think they are called 'Plats' , maps of property and who owns it currently.
            • Re: Researching Ownership and Occupancy

              Tue, August 1, 2006 - 11:28 AM
              I'll keep that in mind for my next trip to Grants Pass, excellent idea -- i recall having done that down here when i had to compose a lawsuit against my landlord, that sort of research gives me an inordinate amount of enjoyment (must be some form of perversion) when i can indulge it. Meantime, do you recall that guy who had a pickup truck that was made around 1950 who during the '93 Faeriestock used to come by most days and was sortof the tender of the pump in the pumphouse and who worked on other things like that around the land? Caucasian, thin with white hair and beard, always seemed to have something bitchy to say about anyone or anything yet was generally sortof jocular in an odd sort of a way? Lived nearby: as Front Street comes North out of bustling downtown Wolf Creek, just after it ducks through the underpass below the railroad, it swings hard left and becomes lower Wolf Creek Road on its way West to the Sanctuary; but, right where it curves left, there are two other little short dead-end roads that go off it to the right (Northward) and he lived up one of those, i thought i recalled that there was maybe a small cemetary at its North end... Most people didn't seem to interact with him much (i have a vague impression that perhaps he might have been on the wrong side of some sort of a feud among folks who lived around there, e.g. how friendly to be toward Tommy or something on that order) but he was always useful. Can't recall his name but is he still around? He would know, i'll bet. ~~Chirp!
              • Re: Researching Ownership and Occupancy

                Tue, August 1, 2006 - 5:11 PM
                That would be Len, and yes, he's still around, and yes, he knows everything about everything.

                love,
                Amper
                • Contacting Len

                  Wed, August 2, 2006 - 2:56 PM
                  Well my cellphone has unlimited minutes to anywhere in the lower 48, so, do we have contact information for him? Of course my universally preferred mode of contact is e-mail or some on-line method but i could phone him if we have a number (or if he's listed and we have a last name), or i guess i could even write him if an address were all that we have (but GoogleMaps does not seem to have a name attached to his little road although i can see his rooftop) and go out before dawn to mail the letter without having to suffer photon exposure... I am of course receptive to any stated social restrictions on contact with him, such as "don't remind him of Nomenus" or whatever (which could nix my contacting him about this), but please warn me up front. ~~Chirp!
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: Contacting Len

                    Wed, August 2, 2006 - 10:37 PM
                    Scott,
                    Contact me offlist & I'll give you Len Richardson's email.-
                    Jerry
                    jerrfaer@sbcglobal.net
                    • Re: Contacting Len

                      Wed, October 4, 2006 - 4:53 PM
                      I contacted Jerry, he sent me Len's contact info, and right at that point i got bogged-down in preparations for our Quarterly Meeting and the new training for volunteers here, and have still not made the call. I see it on my list of things to do every day so it will happen before too much longer i expect. My apologies for the long pause. ~~Chirp!

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